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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2022-08-08 11:08 pm

Bouchercon reading, pt. 1 of ?

I'm going to Bouchercon in Minneapolis with [personal profile] rachelmanija and [personal profile] scioscribe in September! This is a mystery con, and as I have done very little reading of current mystery/thriller in the last decade or two (I definitely read it, in fact I love it, but it's considerably more based around "Ooh, that looks good" than trying to keep up with what's current in the genre), the three of us are doing a sort of informal "book club" of books by the convention's guests - see guests of honor here and all attending authors here.

The first two:

Blacktop Wasteland by S.A. Cosby - This had been on my radar to read for a while, so I'm glad this was finally the kick that got me to read it! This is a really excellent, noir-flavored heist novel set in a small town in the South. Retired getaway driver Beauregard "Bug" Montage gets pulled back in for one last job, and we all know how that goes. But the book is a lot more than a heist novel, although it's a good one. It's also a vivid, literary-flavored snapshot of a particular place and lifestyle - working poor in the small-town South - with dialogue and characters as sharp as Elmore Leonard's best, and a general sense of humanity and empathy with its characters throughout the book that makes even the worst of them compelling and most of them are somewhere on a shades-of-gray sympathy spectrum. The book has spectacular action sequences (seriously, this would make a fantastic movie; please take my money) and a series of escalating twists that sometimes made me gasp out loud. I can see why it's gotten all the buzz that it's gotten. It's very dark and a lot of people die, but it never feels bleak; it's engaging, vivid, and darkly funny enough to keep it moving along briskly.

Money Shot by Christa Faust - Also on my general to-read list because of Rachel's review here from a few years ago. This is a dark, bloody, classic-style noir set in the L.A. porn industry. Aging porn actress Angel Dare wakes up in the trunk of a car after someone tries to kill her - and things only get worse from there. The world that she carefully built around herself with the proceeds from her porn career is collapsing like a house of cards, she can't trust anyone, and all she can do is struggle her way from moment to moment, constantly on the run, trying to unravel the mystery of who's trying to kill her and why before the next betrayal turns out to be her last. She's an extremely engaging and scrappy heroine, with no more fighting skills than any ordinary person would have, driven by determination, raw will to live, and a willingness to tap into increasingly dark parts of herself to survive as her world goes to pieces around her.

These two books made an excellent paired set, because they are spectacularly different in almost every way except the broad strokes of the noir genre, but they are also both incredibly vivid portraits of a place, a time, and a subculture, and both are very well structured and fast-paced with a high body count. Would definitely pick up more books by either of these authors.

Next up in our mini book club: Winter Counts by David Heska Wanbli Weiden, a noirish thriller set on a South Dakota rez.
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[personal profile] sovay 2022-08-09 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Would definitely pick up more books by either of these authors.

I think Money Shot is Faust's best novel. I have enjoyed the others I've read by her, which is almost all of them, but she has some recurring tropes that don't fit in all of her books, which is frustrating. I don't know S.A. Cosby at all!
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[personal profile] philomytha 2022-08-09 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, this sounds like fun, I'm interested in mysteries, and writing mysteries and thrillers - sadly I had a look and they don't seem to have any online attendance options :-(. I'll be interested to hear how it goes!
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[personal profile] sheron 2022-08-11 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's hard to hold the event that's truly hybrid. Costs for both IRL *and* online end up being almost double, I think.
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[personal profile] snickfic 2022-08-09 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
These both sound fascinating, and I am putting them on my library list! They also honestly sound like what I would call a thriller rather than a mystery, but it might be I just have a very old-fashioned idea of what a mystery is. (I read a LOT of Agatha Christie growing up, as well as an odd smattering of the cozy mysteries my mom had around.)
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2022-08-09 06:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I would classify them both as thrillers and noir, not mysteries per se thought Money Shot has more of a mystery element.
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2022-08-09 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm probably mis-remembering how prominent the mystery element was in Money Shot; you've read it more recently.
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[personal profile] scioscribe 2022-08-09 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I typed up a much more rambling version of this and then refreshed and saw this! Anyway, yes, this--I agree that it's (annoyingly) an umbrella category as well as a category of its own, which was probably inevitable because that's how bookstores and libraries tend to classify them.

It's funny that movies don't tend to use mystery as an umbrella term. There are also different standards for labeling a book as noir vs. calling a movie noir. Classification geekery is both ARGH and kind of fun.
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[personal profile] scioscribe 2022-08-09 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I figured I could just chime in and +1 you, once I realized you'd already gone into it! <3

The rule of thumb when it comes to novels is--or used to be, I feel like this has loosened up with cross-pollination between books and movies--is that if it has a cop or private eye protagonist, it's not a noir novel; it's a hardboiled detective novel. The one exception was if the detective/cop character was actually committing the crime. If they were just investigating it, it didn't count. Noir usually presupposes a kind of downward slide for the protagonist--they get involved with a crime and it generally does not go well--and they're usually more flawed, even if they're still sympathetic. To paraphrase Double Indemnity, it's a genre where the last trolley stop is in the cemetery. Whereas hardboiled fiction, per Raymond Chandler, was tough and gritty but still centered on a figure who could be trusted to navigate all that: "He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world."

But movies handle noir more as an atmosphere and mood and cinematic style (certain kinds of lighting and shadowing, etc.); no one really talks about hardboiled movies. So The Big Sleep is a hardboiled novel but a noir film, and there are plenty of darker cop dramas, like The Big Heat, which are usually classed as noir. And there are noir hybrids--Blade Runner and the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers come up a lot as SF noir.

I do kind of think differentiating between "the crime happens outside the protagonist, who may be shaken by the investigation but is ultimately intact" and "the crime happens because of the protagonist, or maybe TO the protagonist, who runs the risk of being destroyed by their choices" can be valuable, because sometimes I'm in the mood for one and not the other, but I ultimately love both ways of looking at the genre, whatever medium it's in.
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[personal profile] chelseagirl 2022-08-09 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Jealous! Some of my local Sisters in Crime pals are going to Bouchercon, but I can only afford one event and Bouchercon is apparently great for fans and for established writers, but there are others that are better for those of us who are still mostly aspiring. Although the co-chair of the conference did an online event with my SinC chapter, and she mentioned there would be a craft track.

Also, Blacktop Wasteland is astounding.
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[personal profile] duffy 2022-08-09 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been to Bouchercon several times in the distant past, and it is so much fun!
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[personal profile] rachelmanija 2022-08-09 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, these make an unexpectedly good paired reading!

I also thought Money Shot was her best book, but I did like the (even darker) sequel a lot; MMA is involved but it's less central than the porn industry in Money Shot.

I could basically see a movie playing in my head while reading Blacktop Wasteland, especially the vehicle action sequences. I'm sure it'll appear eventually and I cannot wait.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2022-08-10 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds fun!
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[personal profile] sheron 2022-08-11 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I am reading all of these when I can!