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Sholio ([personal profile] sholio) wrote2008-08-20 06:42 pm
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Awwww .... show...

SGA will end its run with season 5.

My thoughts on this:

I'm sad. Of course I am. I've fanned harder and heavier on SGA than on any show since I was a teenager. (And they couldn't have waited until next week to announce this, after the inevitable "Shrine"-high, could they? *g*) The show has been a disturbingly integral part of my life for over two years, and it feels like a bit of a punch in the gut that we won't get to have new adventures of Team SGA anymore. It's also sad because it really felt like they were hitting their stride during seasons 4 and 5, and I really would have liked to see what they did after that.

But ... here's why I'm not too depressed about it. 5 years is a good, solid run for a series. Most of the shows I've fanned on have made it a lot less than that. (My last active fanning on an open-canon show was "Invisible Man", and that only made it for two seasons!) With the shows I've watched that did go for more than five seasons, it seemed like most of them tanked in later seasons, in some cases to the point where my enjoyment of earlier seasons is tainted by the massive pile of suck that the show later became. (I'm not saying *every* show does this. But an awful lot of them do.) Back at the start of season 3, I remember saying that I hoped the show would run for five seasons and go out on a high note. Now that we're here, er, I'm kinda eating my words a little bit XD ... but, honestly, I am glad it's going out on a high note with strong episodes and a thriving fandom, not limping to a conclusion with most of the fandom having moved on to shinier pastures.

And I'm heartened by looking around me at other closed-canon fandoms. As far as I can tell, based on my f'list, SG1 fandom is still going just as strong as it was at the close of season 10. Sentinel and Due South were cancelled a decade ago, but both of them still seem to have active fandoms and new fans coming in as they discover the shows. Most of the shows I've fanned on other than SGA are shows that had either been cancelled when I started watching them, or had a planned limited run (like most anime does, or like Life on Mars) so it's not like this is new for me.

There's a mellowness to closed-canon fanning that's kind of nice. As wonderful as it is to get new canon every week, it's an emotional roller coaster ride as canon changes, stories get jossed, ships run aground and fans freak out over new developments. Once the show's over, we can still write our happily-ever-afters, explore the Pegasus galaxy, and make up detailed life histories for every character -- without any worries of being contradicted by canon or having our favorite characters die.

I'm sad about losing the show, I really really am, but I'm also kind of happy and even excited about being active in a closed-canon fandom again. It's not really worse, it's just ... different. (And I'm already contemplating "keep the show alive!" projects of various sorts. I am the woman who ran the Trigun Virtual Third Season, after all. [Edit: which, wow, is still online. Is that a trip down memory lane or what. I haven't thought about it in ages!])

[identity profile] kristen999.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I've never been into a fandom while being heavily active and had it go away. To me I've lost something, wondering who'll go with it.

You have a point about things being active after canon is gone, but this is MY fandom. I don't have another one, not really, so it feels so odd to feel so sad about it.

As far as the run, my biggest problem is the reason for it being axed.

SGU

It was all about ratings to get season 5, now that SGU came into the picture and ratings went up, then all of a sudden there were other 'issues'.

Anyway, maybe I'll go read some big bang fic, I was going to write, but don't feel motivated. Thanks though for the pep talk, it did feel like things would slip away with the show, but I guess it won't.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I know we're all going to be sad and angry and bitter over it, and I don't mean to invalidate anyone's feelings. I'm sad and upset right now, too. I would have loved to see it get picked up for a 6th season (not to mention that I got, or helped to get, two of my closest fandom friends into it and now this. Er, I hope they forgive me...).

I don't think it's entirely fair to blame SGU for it. It's just one of those crazy network decisions that we all hate. With the economy so shaky, maybe trying out a new show (any new show) in the hopes of getting a runaway hit looks better to them than working with an old show with a solid following.

But I am confident that the fandom will carry on and thrive. Some people will undoubtedly drop out or find shiny new things to fan on, but -- well, looking at SG1 fandom, of the people on my f'list who were in the fandom when the show ended, I'm pretty sure all of them still are. People will stick around. And, hey, just like SG1 people keep turning up on SGA, it's not entirely out of the question that we might see Joe or David again on SGU, eh?
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[identity profile] abyssinia4077.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
*nods*
Considering my first fandom was for a (admittedly 11 season) canon that ended a year after I was born and my second fandom was a 10 part miniseries I discovered 3 years after it aired...I can pretty much guarantee closed canon isn't the end of the world or anywhere near the end of fandom. In fact, in some ways it gives you more freedom to play because you can't get Jossed. I was freaked out when I joined Stargate fandom and had to figure out how to deal with open canon.

I...yeah. I feel like I should care more, but 5 years is a solid run and personally I feel like it's been flailing around without a central purpose, and, well, part of me thinks fandom can keep it better.

I just hope season 5 is excellent and it goes out with a solid, exciting bang (hopefully not a LITERAL bang)

Plus! Movies!
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly - most of my fandoms since I've gotten active in online fandom have been closed-canon.

I *am* sad at the thought of not having new adventures (except for the odd DVD movie here and there, if we're lucky). But after two and a half years of really obsessing on this show, and being overwhelmed by the hugeness of the fandom, it's almost comforting that I might be able to get some of my brainspace back. Five years is longer than most of my favorite shows have managed to go, and it's given me a really wonderful fannish experience and lots of new friends that I would never have met otherwise. I remember how upset and angry I was about "Invisible Man", the last show that was cancelled out from under me, and I really don't feel that way this time. I almost feel like the show is reaching a point where it would be inevitably downhill.

Edit: And I am totally stealing borrowing the "redial the gate" idea, if you don't mind, and if no one beats me to it. I think it's an awesome way to beat the post-cancellation blues.

[identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, I loved the Invisible Man - I was just watching an episode last night.

And this is a good way of looking at things - and lets face it a door opens, so you jimmy open a window, crawl through it and get a movie, maybe even a couple. And as you say just because the source material will be closing up shop doesn't mean that the community that we've formed has to suffer for it.

Nice post.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
One door closes, another opens - exactly! We're losing our weekly SGA fix, and I'm very sad about that. But there's SO much awesomeness to look back on, and the slightly different pleasures of a closed-canon fandom to look forward to. I think the community will still be here. And if the movie does well, we may get more - SG1 just got the greenlight for a third movie. *crosses fingers*

[identity profile] courtberger.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still pissed.

But, there are many reasons why I am pissed today and canceling a show that I really, really enjoy was just icing on the cake for me. So I'm going to bed and I'm going to restrain myself as much as possible from strangling someone at work tomorrow when I send back an element for the same damn mistake that they've made every single day and...yeah.

Still very sad, I like this show and I'm going to miss it. Your post rocked however and at least I feel a little better about this part of my day than I did earlier. I'm still going to kill someone at work.

They better end the show with a really great ending, at lease give us that.

Court
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you're having a bad day! Yeah ... I'm sure this didn't help ...

*crosses fingers for awesome ending*

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[identity profile] greyias.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Very well said.

I had come into this season with the expectation that, likely, it would be the last. It still hurts a little, as it's a huge, bright shiny point in my week, but as long as we still have fandom... I think I'll be happy. This is the first show I've been involved with fandom from the show's start to finish.

I'm glad that it's going out on a high note, because I do love this show so much.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah - with every season, I've been thinking "this could be its last" (ironically, I was a lot more optimistic about renewal this season than last; I was shocked that we got a season five!) - so I've been prepared for a while now.

But think of all the things we can look forward to now! :D Retrospective vids/fics/comms, eleventy-billion versions of "and this is what happened to all of them afterwards", new projects for Joe and David, a movie with a big-screen budget ... as depressing as it is that we won't get more new adventures of Team Dork, there's still SO much that can happen.

I think I'd also be more depressed about it if the show hadn't been giving me pretty much everything I've ever wanted as an h/c-loving fangirl. Seriously - just about everything on my wish-list has been ticked off over the last few seasons. If I'd been hanging around wanting, but not getting, I think I'd be all frustrated about missed opportunity now. But I've gotten what I dreamed of and more! I'm sad the show is going away, but it's given me lots of good memories to keep.

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[identity profile] wraithfodder.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
I liked INVISIBLE MAN, until they inserted that woman into the show (to draw in the teenager boys). I'm not happy with the cancellation, a two hour movie isn't enough (and worse, Mallozzi will pen it - he's not a good writer when it comes to character develoment). I do think SGU is the main reason for its death - two shows are very expensive to run. New shiny toys are cheaper and they can hope for a hit. It's a business decision of course, but fans are fans of characaters not explosions, so i'm sure a lot of SGA fans will not bother with SGU because, hey, no SHeppard? No McKay? No watch...

Meanwhile, think the boards will burn with ranting for the next day or two, which is normal.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, insult to injury on "Invisible Man" - the second season was very weak, compared to the first, so we basically only got one good season out of it.

I expect lots of fannish angst and ire over the next few days, and I understand why people are upset, really I do. I'm upset! I'm just ... not really that upset. I'm very sorry the show will be gone, but I'm positive the fandom will still be around, and I'm curious to see what shape it will take after the show's final season.

[identity profile] tringasolitaria.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
For me, I guess what hurts is that...well, I didn't love S4 like a lot of other people seemed to. It had some great moments, but mostly it just always seemed like a transitional year to me. But with S5 and Woolsey here now (I've been loving Woolsey) I've really felt like the show was getting back on track, and I was looking forward to seeing that dynamic play out over at least one more year. I didn't have much hope in it going beyond that, or interest really - you're right that a lot of shows start going downhill in the later seasons. And cast contracts would have to be renegotiated after S6 (if I'm not mistaken-everything I've heard says that the cast were signed for six years originally), and Jason Momoa has already made it clear in interviews that he wanted to do something else after a sixth season. So a sixth season seemed like a natural ending, and this just feels (to me) like getting cut off too soon. :(

As far as fandom goes, I'm sure fanfiction and everything will be around for a long time. But SGA is my first and only real fandom. Yeah, I watch other shows, and read fanfic for them, but I've mostly stayed on the edges - on the outside looking in so to speak. I don't really forsee myself finding another fandom - I think this was it for me. It's too stressful!! :D So yeah, it's sad. But I'll get over it-it's just a TV show after all! :) I'm just going to miss John and Rodney a lot! :(
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that about the 6-year contracts, though I had read that Jason wanted to leave at the end of next season. But, yeah, I see what you're saying. It's really a great dynamic this year and I would have liked to see it continue for another year (at least).

I don't think the fandom is going anywhere, and it might even be a sweeter, saner place without new canon every week to get people's undies in a bunch. But I will really miss seeing Team Dork on my screen each week.
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2008-08-21 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
I prefer it if shows I love either get a real finite arc, or kind of die slowly. For me even if I dislike later stuff, it's never ruined my enjoyment of the earlier parts. I stuck with the *X-Files* through the end (though I didn't watch all of the last seasons), and that decline didn't ruin my love for the earlier seasons in any way beyond being mildly disgruntled with conspiracy arc being truly non-sensical, and that kind of process gives me time to let the show go rather than have it taken from me. For me the "risk" to have a show kind of suck is always worth it, and better than not having the show at all, because then there is zero chance for it to be still good.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough, certainly - it's very much a "your mileage may vary" thing. In my case, there are several shows (Buffy comes to mind here, and any number of comic series) where I end up remembering the bad rather than the good, and being reluctant to recommend the series to someone because of where it ended up. I'm more of a "love it for awhile and end with a bang" kind of fan; I like finite arcs, self-contained stories, and shows that end at their high point.

Which is not to say you're wrong; there are many ways to fan.

*clings to remaining episodes*

[identity profile] tipper-green.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Very similar thinking, my friend. Having only ever written for closed canon before, I can tell you -- it's really freeing. So, its sad, but its also sort of exciting.

Basically, I just agree. Which, frankly, isn't anything new.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
*g* Somehow it doesn't surprise me that we are of similar mind on this!

[identity profile] spark-force.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Oddly enough, I'm more sad about not having any more McKay than I am about not having any more show, if that makes any sense. But... fandom will continue on, so it's really not the end of the world.

I think all my cancellation rage was burned out of me after the end of SG1, anyways. It takes too much energy.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
We can always hope he'll turn up on Stargate Universe, maybe? If they haven't cast the show yet, it's not impossible that some of the SGA characters/actors might migrate over there (depending on where SGU falls in Stargateverse continuity, of course).

But, yeah, fandom goes on, and looking at how active and thriving some of the bigger fandoms still are, I think there's every reason to believe that we'll still be able to hang out with other fans and find new adventures online every week, even ten years from now.

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[identity profile] kriadydragon.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Your views have made me feel better. Though I'm still a mite sad.

Though SGA isn't my first fandom, it is the first fandom I've really sunk my teeth into: the first show where I was actually interested in things like behind-the-scenes photos, cast interviews, spoilers, forums and so on. And despite a few frustrations - mostly with fanfic - it's been one heck of a wild ride for me. I also owe this show for all the story ideas it gave me and for all the writing it provoked me to do, helping me build my writing muscles, so to speak. So though I knew the end would eventually come - and, like you, had a feeling season five would be it - it's still a bit of a kick-to-the-gut shock. Heck, I almost cried, and I've never wanted to cry over a cancelled show.

But what you've said has helped. For me, it used to be that once a show left the air, my interest in that show went with it. But that was before we started getting fave shows on DVD, and before my discovery of fandom. I do not want SGA to fade into obscurity for me - becoming a show that either I no longer have an interest to ever see again or a show that made me wonder why I ever liked it in the first place. I do not want that to happen with SGA and, hopefully, through fandom and having every episode on DVD, it won't.

Finally (and I apologize for being so long winded about this) you have a point. Better the show end on a high-note than gradually decay - which is exactly what had happened with the last two sci-fi shows I was obsessed with (and one of them only lasted for five seasons as well). It's why a part of me is able to see the positive side to this. It's better that the show end with people disappointed that it's over, rather than people disappointed that they kept pushing for more episodes.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sad too - don't get me wrong. This is one of very, very few shows that I've ever done that kind of in-depth fanning on - immersing myself in both the behind-the-scenes of the show and the fic/fandom side.

I really do think the fandom will go on. I'm nowhere near ready to stop fanning on it, and from what I've seen on LJ, that's how everybody feels right now. Which means the fandom, the fic, the show-love will continue.

There are some shows that I've put behind me completely, and there are others that I continue to revisit from time to time. A couple of years before I got into SGA, I went through another big surge of fascination and love for Star Trek: TOS, a show I first loved when I was a small child and have periodically revisited ever since. I have no doubt that SGA will be one of those fandoms for me, one of the ones that even after I get to the eventual point where I'm no longer active in it, I'll still keep revisiting. I really don't see the show letting go of my heart that easily. And right now, I still have a ton of fics I want to write. I'm nowhere near done.

It's going out on a high note, and the fandom will still be there, and I'm hanging onto that.

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[identity profile] patk.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
*g* So, basically you're saying that it's sad not to have new episodes coming but also better for the nerves in the long run. ;-)

Yeah, that's a way to see it and I'll probably come around to this opinion too sooner or later but for now I'm still ... *uhm* sulking, I guess. And shedding a few tears while I'm on it.

I was in Sentinel fandom for 7 years before I discovered (or rather: was dragged kicking and screaming into) SGA last year and fell *hard* for it. So, I know what it means to be in a fandom that has a closed canon but getting your favorite show cancelled while still in the honeymoon phase with it is a litte ... well, it hurts somewhat and not in the good way.

*Sigh* It was not a surprising decision with SG Universe waiting in the wings and all the money-related reasons but still ... not exactly happy right now.

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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
I guess I've just been through this so many times. There were times when I was heartsick and furious. This time - I guess I'm just so happy with what we've been given (Tao! Doppelganger! Shrine!) and I doubt if the rest of the season is going to contain any big "whop you upside the head with depressing" events - we have our boys and our team, and we'll always have them, so I'm clutching hold of that.

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[identity profile] winter-elf.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm crushed. really crushed. I think 5 years was WAY too short :( Especially when it was growing in the ratings this year and winning awards. I can see if it was declining. :( :( :(

I'm going to send Sci-Fi lemons.
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* It does feel too short, and it feels like the show is being cancelled at its very height - IMHO, it's the best it's ever been, and it's picking up awards, and, oh, stupid Sci-Fi.

But the fandom is, obviously, still very invested in this. It'll go on. We'll have virtual seasons and fannish get-togethers and lots and lots of new fic, I know we will.
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[identity profile] tty63.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this post. I've never been in a closed fandom except for brief glimpses here and there so I'm almost looking forward to it. It will be nice to know that the writers can't mess with canon whenever they feel like it and knowing the characters won't die makes me happy. *searches for silver lining*
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
It really *is* warm and nice - all the worst things that can happen in canon, you already know about, and you can take the characters to whatever sort of ending you'd like.

I'm so sad we won't get Team Dork on our screens anymore - but we know the show can never break them up or kill them, and we can have them forever - and that's something, yeah?

[identity profile] villainny.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
This is comforting. Thanks for being a voice of reason. ;)
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I'm glad it helps a little. :)
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[identity profile] with-apostrophe.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah it's hard. this is the first TV fandom I've been actively involved in, and only the second fandom at all, so I don't have the same experience to gain the perspective you do. LOTR was semi-closed canon when it resurged for the movies, and we knew from the beginning when we'd be getting no more new material.

This is tough, and I'm a little scared of what they might do to end the franchise in the movies - but I won't get into that.

On the plus side - meta will be hugely easier with closed canon. And five years is fantastic. this season isn't halfway through and I've finally seen the Teyla stuff I wanted, had awesome Ronon stuff, TEAM Dork Squad, snark a plenty, Woolsey... and not an Ori or Prior equivalent in sight!

But, unlike some who centre on fanfic, watching the show itself was the centre of my fandom experience, even if I didn't always want to take it apart afterwards. So to not have this is very very very sad.

I know many are already saying "I hate SGU and won't watch on principle", but I'll be there waiting to see what happens. Heck, I pre-judged SGA negatively and look how that turned out!

[identity profile] horridporrid.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
But, unlike some who centre on fanfic, watching the show itself was the centre of my fandom experience...

Me, too. So there's this depressing, "but what will fill that Friday night hole?" thing going on. To not have new SGA to anticiptate is very sad-making. Though this point you make:

On the plus side - meta will be hugely easier with closed canon.

That gives me a glimmer of a silver lining (just a glimmer mind you *g*) which isn't a bad thing.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
I can totally see all of this. I usually think 5 seasons should be the limit for all shows. And heck...I'd rather have canon closed now before they kill off Kanaan or marry Rodney off to Keller (...okay, okay, will stop being snarky, but it's a positive thought for me & my McSheppiness! And who knows what they'll do in the movies, but they'll be far enough removed by then not to matter...)

I just wish it hadn't happened so soon. I wish I could've had a couple more months of hope at the very least, because now, watching every ep is going to hurt a little, knowing it's the last we'll get (melodramatic, much?!) Mostly I'm personally upset - I'm still fairly new to SGA here, it's still shiny enough that I'm going to miss it a lot. If only I'd listened to you sooner and given my soul away a couple years ago! I only got to experience the excitement of one premiere (and no mid-season premiere, even) and that's not fair! And I know I'm not going to be in it for that much longer (I know myself too well), and to be drifting away when everyone's still sad...it hurts.

Also, I'm going to miss Rodney & David Hewlett's presence on my screen a lot. And everyone else, of course. But him most especially...
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you had so little time to really enjoy it! I do wish they'd waited just a little longer to announce it, at least. And one thing that I really regret about the show ending so soon is that, knowing how you move around between fandoms, it *does* make it less likely that you'll stick around for a while. I really would have liked to keep you here a little longer!

But there's no telling what's going to happen. I remember how, when I first started watching the show in the spring of '06, I ended up writing a Christmas story in the summer because I figured there was no way I'd still be fanning on the show come Christmas. And look at me, still here, two years later. I've never fanned on anything this long - and it *does* hurt to know it's coming to an end, but we've had the threat of cancellation hanging over our heads ever since I've been in the fandom. Season 3 was a massively uncertain time, with several actors leaving the show, rumors that it would follow SG1 to cancellation, and fans deserting in droves, but the fandom weathered it, and I'm still here. I suspect that this might turn out to be *the* fandom for me - I might not stay in it forever, but I think I'll keep coming back to it, the way I've been coming back to ST: TOS since I was eight years old.

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[personal profile] busaikko 2008-08-21 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
After shock, pain, and horror at the crash-and-burn ending of the Harry Potter series, I took refuge in closed-canon (Sentinel and dueSouth): they were warm and fuzzy and untouchable, just what I needed. Deciding to follow a show that was actually *airing* in the US (with the hassle of trying to get episodes, and being jossed, and spoilers, nrgh) was a big decision. So there is comfort in knowing that, when canon closes, it's safe. I just hope that S5 doesn't pack any unpleasant surprises before it goes.

*crosses fingers for a dueSouth-style ride into the sunset, as opposed to WTF my ship is dead HP-style closure*
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
*crosses fingers with you* I'm at least mostly optimistic that they're not going to pull any major nasty surprises out of their hats, since this season was planned out with the expectation/hope that they'd have another one.

The last show I actively fanned on while it was airing got cancelled after two seasons, and sucked pretty badly in the second season on top of everything, so at least I'm coming out ahead on this one. *g*

[identity profile] flingslass.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
It sucks that SGA has been cancelled but I watched Due South and the Sentinel and yes have had to live with the axing of more than one show. (I must say I like the UK where they make six episodes a year and clearly tell you that it will only run for three or whatever years.)
It's sad but I guess we roll with it. You are right about the fanfic because Canon will no longer change.
:( (And it's a work night so I can't have a drink but even then with the Saturday driving lessons I couldn't drink tomorrow night.)
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
I like finite shows - you know what we're getting, and they usually have fairly well-planned plot arcs. I do feel a bit weird to be complaining about getting 100 episodes when so many of the shows I've fanned on have had planned start-to-finish runs of much, much less!

But I'm still sad. It hurts to expect more and then not get it.

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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
I'm somewhat disappointed that it will just end in the middle (I hope they didn't do a cliffhanger for the S5 ending???) rather than having a real end, but on the whole, I am not too upset about it.

I much prefer closed-canon fandoms, and I have been watching the show more to keep up with canon so I can participate in fandom than because I really enjoy watching it, so now I don't have to take an hour out of my day every week to watch something I'm not that thrilled with.

[identity profile] wneleh.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
(I hope they didn't do a cliffhanger for the S5 ending???)

Apparently, they do; but, presumably, the first movie will resolve it.

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[identity profile] wneleh.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'd been unhappily contemplating life w/o Ronon (Momoa has said he'd like S5 to be his last), and at least that isn't going to happen (or at least is less likely).

I'll miss the post-ep squee (and anti-squee), that's for sure.

But I'm already kind of excited about what I could do, fic-wise, with the characters with a closed canon. Not that there's anything stopping me now; but I like to stay in-canon.

- Helen
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I had heard that Jason wanted to leave, so I was feeling sad about that already - at least this way, the team stays together, right? *crosses fingers for team staying together*

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[identity profile] roxy-palace.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's great to read this, having just been blind sided with the news. I've never fallen for a show like I fell for this one. Sure, new stuff comes ablong. But could there really ever be another McShep? No way.

Having said that, you're right. Closed canon can still be fun, and I'm already looking forward to a virtual 6th season:) I just hope folks stick around and keep writing our boys. They're the best hobby I've ever indulged in.

Thanks so much for the pep talk :)
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
You're welcome! I fully expect people will stick around and there'll be lots of post-canon fic to read. It's not the same as having new episodes, but I don't think the creativity and fandom energy will go away.

[identity profile] jadesfire2808.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think at least 50% of my guttedness is that my 2008 has sucked, and this means there will be no new shinies to make 2009 better. 10% of it is that it feels like they're killing the cash cow ("oh lookie, we're about to hit syndication, we can stop spending money now") but that might be me being overly cynical. The rest, I'll probably get over.

What you're saying makes a lot of sense, thanks. Once the shock dies down, hopefully things will be as happy and creative as the Due South fandom that my best friend keeps trying to drag me into. Maybe I'll have the time for it now!
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[personal profile] naye 2008-08-21 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so sorry to hear that your 2008 has sucked! *hugs*

August 2007 - April 2008 was the worst time of my life, and I almost literally got through it by having SGA as my shiny thing, and SGA fandom as the place to go to for distraction and support and creativity and - well. Friends. I had RL friends helping out, too, but I started picking myself up about the time I started writing fic for SGA. And then I had the Whaleverse to work with together with [livejournal.com profile] friendshipper, and it was a wonderful, wonderful experience that distracted me from when things were less good in my life. And it feels like the show - the fandom - is such a good part of my life, seeing it diminished like this hurts.

Um. So in all that babbling about me, I'm think I'm trying to say that I really know how you feel about life sucking and shinies making it better, and I hope with all my heart that your life will suck less, and that there will still be plenty of shinies for you in it. ♥

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[identity profile] katikat.livejournal.com 2008-08-21 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Friend's friends hopping here...

I came into SGA just this year. I was really sad about how my other show, Supernatural, always wavered on the brink of cancelation and I was so sure that SGA would continue for at least one more year. That's why this hit me really hard. Actually so hard that I literally cried my eyes out. Whenever a show is canceled, I feel like I lost a friend...

My problem is that once a show ends, I lose slowly interest in the fanfics. I need the show to feed my interest in fanfiction. I lost interest in SG1, The Sentinel, Due South fics... And I don't want it to happen with SGA but I know it will and that depresses me even more...

ETA: You know, I wouldn't be so upset if I knew that S5 would be the last. But at Comic Con, the Sci-fi representative raised everybody's hope for the future of the show so this cancelation feels like such a blow...
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[identity profile] friendshipper.livejournal.com 2008-08-22 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
It's the shock that hits the hardest, when you think it's going to be there and then it's not.

There's still most of the season to go, and then the movies - I'm clinging to that at this point.

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